My Take on MGTOW

If you’re a regular reader of this site, you may think what that sign on the top of the page means. I’m aware many of you already know this but here I am going to offer my own views of it.

Firstly, this logo is the symbol of MGTOW or Men Going Their Own Way. Their manifesto I will post here based on the one on the MGTOW website.

MEN GOING THEIR OWN WAY ver. 2.2

The goal is to instill masculinity in men, femininity in women, and work toward limited government!

By instilling masculinity in men, we make men self-reliant, proud, and independent.

By instilling femininity in women, we make them nurturing, supporting, and responsible.

By working for a limited government, we are working for freedom and justice.

Women have other qualities is not interesting to men because we don't need them! Femininity will be the price women pay for enjoying masculinity in men!

This is the aim of "Men Going Their Own Way".

By holding this point of view, we are helping other men and, more importantly, we are helping boys grow up to become men.

This goal is to take away everyone's "right" to vote on other people's affairs thus rendering it impossible for political organisms and ideologies to impose their personal will on everyone else. It is not about reinstalling patriarchy or revoking female voting rights or making socialism illegal. It might have this as a side effect - but not directly and not as a political ideology. Only the future will show
what happens and by going our own way we are preparing men and boys for that future.

It is important for men to have a practical approach to implementing our strategies.

PRIME STRATEGIES FOR ACHIEVING OUR GOALS

We have 3 main strategies:

1. instilling masculinity in men by:
Demanding respect for men
Serving as good male role models
Living independent lives
Fighting chivalry

2. instilling femininity in women

We will hold women equally accountable to men and ignore and shun those who refuse to take any responsibility for their own circumstances. Thus we induce women to take a complementary position with men instead of a competitive position as is now the case.
Feminine qualities we want from women:

Nurturing
Supportive
Responsibility
Respectfulness
Honesty

3. Limited government

In order to be independent of society, and live within it, while at the same time work for limiting governmental influence upon our daily lives, men will:

Go Their Own Way
Support other men
Legally reduce any taxpaying
Truthfully act out any duties in accordance with their conscience
Use any rights to the benefit of other men as well as themselves

It is those 3 strategies that come together in one.

Lets make things clear, MGTOW is NOT a political movement and apart from some websites, isn’t an organised movement either, it’s a philosophy of life. We are simply individual men who, after seeing how society is slowly decaying from within, simply decide to say ‘ Screw this, I’m going my own way ‘ and so go forth and do things their own way.

To put another way, if current society as we know it is being run on a unreliable, crash - prone, bloated resource pig of an operating system ( Think Windows here. ) then MGTOW is a whole new operating system for the minds of those men who are able to handle it. A more attractive, flexible, cheaper and generally more reliable system of living.

One of the real beauties of MGTOW is that is so flexible. This means, as an individual man, as long as your life on your terms, not that of some mis-guided parent, skank, some insane feminist or highly corrupt and PC mad politicians, then your one of us, truly a man going their own way.

For some, the marriage strike that now in full swing is more than enough for many men but for many others, that isn’t enough. There are the ones who are speaking out, much like myself. There are ones who are going off and marrying foreign brides, the type of haven’t yet being corrupted by the foul beast that is feminism.

Then there are those who continually strive for improvement in all areas of their lives, be with eating a healthy diet, developing their mind, connecting with nature, the list is endless. I don’t know of any MGTOW who are not doing at least doing something in this area, this is generally speaking, a universal trait of MGTOW, we continually strive for improvement. Why? Because we know we’re not perfect but we must strive not to be perfect either because perfection is boring.

MGTOW don’t subscribe to the propaganda machine that is the media. We know that it lies, based on sensationalism and is generally speaking, depressing. And I wonder why there is so much unnecessary drama at home with the family! In fact, MGTOW don’t subscribe to the popular culture at all. Instead, we create our own culture, one that we can call our own.

MGTOW are gentlemen but that does NOT mean we are wimps either. As I have spoken of before in a previous post, we are polite but if the need arises, we can be aggressive as well. This type of philosophy is necessary if one is to succeed in life as we must grab every opportunity we get in life by the balls and squeeze it HARD. There is no such thing as a successful wimp.

For the websites that exist where MGTOW gather, we are then a brotherhood, bound by the fact we have adopted the philosophy of MGTOW into our lives. Everyone there looks out of for each other and offers the type of advice on life that you wouldn’t find anywhere else. Its little wonder that when my father offered me advice that confused me, I brought it up on Niceguy’s MGTOW forum as I knew I’d get the best advice. Not the stuff I wanted to hear but the actual truth. They say the truth will set you free but it will hurt at first. No truer words can be spoken!

Some might say that an MRA and MGTOW are both the same type of person. That’s one of those both yes and no answers. Many other MRA’s have adopted the MGTOW philosophy, some have not but may follow a similar lifestyle in that regards. While certain MRAs might be cynical of how life has played out to them, MGTOW fully embrace the doors that have opened to us as a result instead of mourning at the doors that have being welded shut!

To be honest, I’m still learning as you can see from reading my blog, some of the posts read like something from a personal rant journal but I couldn’t care less. One of my character traits is that I like to speak my mind, even if it offends someone without me realising it ( depending on the person I usually apologise after I realise my error, unless I meant it ) I’ve learned so much about myself and the world around me.

All this simply because I’ve decided to just go my own way. Even when I was only 9, I was already going my own way. I was cast as a cat in school play and fully embraced the role, to the point I crawled on the ground to get the cat impression right! I didn’t care what people thought and the end result was fantastic, we did the play for competition and my character was directly complimented by a judge afterwards. Fuck it, I’ve always being going my own way, only I didn’t realise it!

As a fellow Man Going My Own Way, I see things getting better for me from here on in and that is a good thing. My jaw operation I spoke of was a success and as I’m fast healer, the pain and swelling is pretty much gone. My new smile and bite are going to do wonders for my self - esteem and its worth the hassles at the moment but I guess that fits right into the MGTOW philosophy, in order to get what we want from life, we first endure some hardships in order to get there. These hardships are there to test you and you will come out a stronger and better person!

So, that’s my take on the MGTOW philosophy.

Until next time, keep going your own way!

NHY

The End of Eternal Bachelor

As and some of you will have no doubt noticed, the blog Eternal Bachelor has just being closed down.

The Final Post

Man, this is sad to see. It was actually one of the first MRA blogs that I read when I first came across the MRA movement last year and it was a good blog but alas, Duncan had good reasons for closing it down and I wish him all the best in the future, you’ve made a huge contribution to the MRA movement and will be sadly missed. Thanks for everything, man.

On that topic, over at Pook’s Mill, Pook made an interesting post in relation to the end of EB that is worth reading by everyone. It’s called ’ RIP Eternal Bachelor ‘

Pook’s Mill

Until next time,

NHY

A Response to Claritus

Recently, I was passed a link to Claritus' Blog, with the person who posted it telling me the writer was apparently neutral and tries to see things from both sides in regards to feminism and MRA's, the post that struck me most was this one. Which for a suppossed neutral blog, was rather biased against MRA and our plight.

Here, I am going to post my response to that post. It was meant for as a comment but due to a some weird glitch, my full comment was not properly published. However. I DID save it. So, I'll post it here instead.

This copied and pasted as is from the save file my hard drive.

Hi, someone left a link to this blog on my own so I thought I'd drop by and have a look.

I understand that your trying to remain neutral here but I couldn't help but notice there are is a lot of biased information there. I'll point them and give my commentary.

Even the dreaded feminists can manage to write a post on equality without having to resort to calling men names! I read once that ‘women should not call men dogs or bastards’. I fully agree. Women shouldn’t call men names. BUT men should be able to write a sentence without referring to the entire female population as prostitutes!

With respect that isn't true. There are plenty of MRA blogs that write posts without referring to the entire female population as prostitues.

I generally don't read feminist blogs so I can't provide accurate commentary on that issue.

This is what I’m talking about. Men’s Rights Activists seem to be labouring under a huge double standard. Feminists shouldn’t generalize men - but MRAs can generalize women! Women shouldn’t call men names - but MRAs can call women prostitutes just because some women are!

Well, if you've being the reciving end of the stick for most of your life, wouldn't you be a little angry at the people responsible to the point you start calling them names and get really cross at the world for allowing this to happen? I sure would, a lot of us MRAs are angry and rightfully so, I'm not going to blame them for calling women names.

Another thing worth nothing is that most MRAs have stated that what they say DOES NOT apply to ALL women, only MOST of them in western society.

They want women to stop having sex all the time (to the point of inserting chips into their arms so that men can tell if they want sex or not), just for the pleasure of it, (like the feminists have encouraged women to do) but they still defend the old line of ‘men are genetically hardwired to spread their seed’ meaning, basically, that men should get carte blanche to have sex with as many women as possible.

I know both men and women enjoy sex for pleasure but the problem with Promiscuity that is clearly rampant in today's soicety is that the wrong type of men benefit as a result from it. I'm talking about how the good men, the one who push themselves and want to make something of themselves are being cast aside by most women in favour of the bad boy, thug and player, types of men who provide her with excitment but are whom have no future and only live for the present.

And men ae hardwired for sex by nature, its a survival instinct. For the poor good guy, women abuse this to get things done, get money or a free meal and don't give anything in return. Do you call that fair?

You know the thing that really gets me going when I read MRA blogs? (which I don’t do much anymore, by the way - too hard on the blood pressure) Everything is the fault of women.

What do you want to blame instead, ourselves? If you look it up, most divorces are initated by women who are bored of the husband and want a change with benefits.

The case study you provided was kind of a bad example as well, in most cases, its usually the other way around and then the man is blamed for driving the women into the arms of the other man. Also, most of us MRAs would correct ourseleves if such a story came out and later details emerged like the way your desribed. I would.

I read a post, which I liked a lot, which talked about women’s rights. She said she thought women’s rights were the right to physical protection and safety, the right to emotional protection and safety, and the right to respect.

Almost all MRAs have no problem with this ideal. What we DO have a problem with is when laws come in telling companies that they'd need to hire a certain amount of women or risk getting sued, even if its clear that men are far more work focused and suited for that type of job than women amongst other laws that descriminate against males and the assumption that males are ' guilty until proven innocent ' and that all females are ' victims ' and that all men are ' oppressers '

In the MGTOW manifesto, it says men are going to expect respect from women. Nowhere does it say that they will give equal respect TO women. Is this fair? No. Another example would be women who get drunk, have sex, then claim they were raped. Now, according to some posts and comments I’ve read, the women should take responsibility, and not have sex, or even, and this was very recent, that women should have a chip inserted into their arm which glows different colours so that men will know if she actually wants to have sex or not. Why don’t men just not have sex? There’s a shocker. Why don’t men take some responsibility.

I thought that kind of thing in regards to respect would be would be autimatically assumed. Women give us men the respect we deserve and we will return the favour.

And like I said, the type of men that most young women in the west spend thier prime years hanging out with men don't know responsibility! The good men are responsible and looked what happened to them, they get brushed aside!

Another one. Women want to walk down the street without guys leaning out their car windows and yelling, making hand gestures, and basically making them feel very uncomfortable and unsafe.

If thats the case, then the woman should dress in a more respectable fashion, like you siad and generally speaking, the type of who do this are more often than not, the type of men who don't know responsibility if it hit on them on the head!

on a feminist website, and one of the comments from the women on the debate said something to the effect of if women should have to watch the way they dress, then men should exercise the ability to keep their mouths shut

With all due respect, we have kept our moths shut for 40 years while the feminist movement flourished and we got screwed over. Ditto in regards to the type of men who can't keep thier mouths shut around attrative women!

No. Fair exchange is no robbery. If women should look at the way they are dressing and curtail themselves for the benefit of men, then men could at least extend us the courtesy of treating us like human beings, not slabs of meat on show for their approval and delight.

We will, most of us MRAS would do just that if that occurred but remember what I've siad about the type of men who can't keep thier mouths shut!

There’s a saying that men are looking for someone to mother them, when they look for a partner, someone to look after them. After looking at these blogs, I have to say that this saying might be right after all - these men certainly don’t seem to want to take responsibility for their actions.

So men are nothing more than irresponsible, lazy slubs? I know you don't mean it like that but in essense, most of us men know how to look after ourselves quite well.

So, I gave you my commentary on this post, I hope it isn't too unreasonable, I tried to be as fair as possible in my commentary and don't mean to offend you. At least its written in a way that won't start any trouble and for that, Kudos to you.

NHY

What I’ve Learned - Summer 2007 and looking ahead

Last December, I spoke of what I had learned as a result of being an MRA for the 6 months beforehand. It has being six months, give and take, since I posted that and as I said at the end of that post, I would be doing this again in 6 months time. Well, the time has come everyone to once again go down that road and see what I’ve learned about myself, my family and the world around me in the past 6 months.

* In respect to recent occurrences, especially in regards to the post below and some others. I’ve learned that feminists are so up - tight and so determined to hold onto their precious status as ‘ victims of society ‘ and ‘ oppressed ‘ when in fact the opposite is true, that they are willing to go to ANY lengths to silence their critics. This includes shaming tactics, screaming over trivial matters, pretending to be MRAs and causing shit on MRA blogs to make us as all look bad amongst other things. Thanks feminists, I’m fairly confident that I now know your tricks and will be able to laugh them off in future.

* In regards to the situation at home, nothing much has changed, accept that for some reason, I no longer really give a fuck about it. Why? I’m not entirely sure. All that I know is that even they acknowledge that I’m different… only to go off and tell me I need to do this and that to become more ‘ normal! ‘ Even though they are flawed, they DO have wisdom to share, the same goes for everyone else. For those who are still living with family. Yes, I know it can be tough be and they can be flawed but don’t completely ignore them, they might have something worthwhile to tell you!

* I’ve also found a possible reason for all the chaos at home and in my life; Predictive Programming. Its basically brain washing people to behave in a certain manner. The weapons of choice? School for young people and the mainstream media for everyone. Through the presentation of the media, through its constant depressing news, sensationalism, stupid TV dramas with an inordinate amount of chaos in them and so on. People parrot what they see and hear through the media.

School is less about learning and more about indoctrinating children at an age where they take in things like a sponge to accept what things are going to like for them when they grow up, how society will treat them, how others will treat them and how to treat others.

The result? People are more isolated from each other than ever before, in spite of all this ‘ communications technology! ‘ The family has all but being destroyed and most of those that still remain are all but dysfunctional, with the unnecessary drama and chaos brought about as a result of predictive programming. Generations are separated from each other, men from woman and child from parent.

* I too, like everyone else, am a victim of this predictive programming. I’ve being conditioned to despise manual labour, amongst other things, like many of today’s youth. As a result, people don’t form an appreciation of those who do these shit jobs as many of them are the very people we depend upon to keep society going or for life in general. I too leech money of parents while I’m in college and being honest, I hate it. I don’t particularly like or want to be dependent on them. My father gave me advice to go and work in a building site or something similar for a few months, the one thing I despise above everything else, saying it would be good for the mind, body and soul after I get over the anger, frustration and depression of having to do it.

I guess I owe the people at the nice guy forum a thank you for pointing me in the right direction when I brought it up. I posted it there instead of elsewhere because I knew I’d get the most blunt but honest answers there. I have it in mind now to do that once, just once for 3 - 6 months before I enter my chosen industry, even if that means I’ll have to wait until I after I graduate until I do so. People, even my own family would probably think I’ve gone mad but if anything, it will be an exercise in ‘ deprogramming ‘ myself and will help me to become more mature and straighten my prospective.

* That there are jackasses everywhere. Let me tell you this, I thought the situation in secondary school was bad but man, the situation in college is actually WORSE! I’m talking about people who get a kick out of making fun of me because of my middle name to the I behave. I’ve covered what some of the girls thought of me a while back, most have looked at them the wrong way.

Also, apparently, whenever they have party, everyone is invited……. except me. I guess they really don’t like me for some reason. To that extent, I’ll probably NEVER go to any class party they organise again unless by some disturbance in the force, I’m elected class rep in second year. Better to not go then go and end up pissed off! I want to enjoy myself too but I want a degree at the end of this as well. If I have to completely alienate myself from my year to achieve this goal, then so be it.

It will be interesting to see all these people in about 10 years time and how they will wish they paid more attention to me while in secondary school / college and less time poking fun at me! Of what fun will that be when I’m a made man and the shit has hit the fan for them!


OK, now that I’ve discussed what I’ve learned in the past 6 months, I would like to take some time to talk about the future. Well, I’m be finding out my first year exam results on Friday, based on those results, I will see where I will be next year. I’ll more than likely be a second year graphic design student. The following Monday, June 11th, I’ll be going for my Jaw Operation, something that will put me out of action for at least a few days as well as effect my diet for about 3 months! At least I’ll be dependent on my family to do things for me for a change as opposed for to them being dependent on me to do things!

As for the blog, I’ll probably delete the link to my Anti - NWO blog and instead dedicate all my resources into this blog. So, expect more varied content here in the future as I diversify my subjects. I’ll keep the name An Irishman Against Feminism though because its my trademark now, anyways, the text under the title ‘ I am an Irish Man. I am against feminism and all things surrounding it or it surrounds. Need I say more? ‘ is there because when I created this blog, I knew I’d be eventually going into other topics related to Feminism or Feminism is related to that effect us all.

As I’m learning, men all over the west are slowly but very surely waking up. This is always a good thing. The more men waking up to the injustices of society and saying ’ Fuck this, I’m going my own way! ‘ , the better. I can see a hopeful future for humanity if we can keep this up, not the dark future that the elites want. The rate of which men ( AND women too! ) will be waking up will accelerate over the next few years and there is NOTHING you can do to stop it!

Ladies and Gentlemen, there are sure most interesting times we live in and I believe that we’re soon heading into the end game, the final battle between humanity and the elites. This will pit man against woman, boy against girl, man against machine. What will YOU be doing? Will be a passive observer and perish or an aggressive warrior?

Until next time,

NHY.