What I am going to say here may offend some people here but we value freedom of speech here, don’t we? Besides, its always good to bring up a something that could start a debate.
This steams from Friday, when I had my Christmas review in college. Unfortunately, while passing everything else, I failed the main module, although I wasn’t the only one, 16 other people failed along with me! So yeah, I kind of obviously felt down about myself as a result and has led to me thinking about where I am in life at present and my future, including whatever or not I should drop out.
I decided against that, instead deciding that I’m going to put my head down and really try my hardest, put in 110%, starting with the next project, which we will get on Monday, Among other things like going to a lecturer known for his brutal honesty ( who also happens to be the best - and the most real world experienced - lecturer on my course ) and asking him where I am going wrong and what I can do to fix it.
But anyways, enough about that, from this, along with talking to a fellow MRA in the Chatroom last night, I spoke to him about how I, along with many others, were constantly complaining about the department being under - resourced, morale being extremely low, that the project briefs were crap and in my case, living an annoying 40 minute bus trip from college and coming from an unstable family life. In other words, I was blaming everyone and everything else for my failure but myself.
With that I said this little gem that deserves to be shared;
Accepting blame - even embracing it - is a sign of maturity. That is why we live in such an immature society!
Which brings me to the core of this topic; In modern society, there is no where near enough responsibility. The vast majority of people dread the word ‘ responsibility ‘ as it actually makes them stop and think about the consequences of their actions and that maybe, in reality, they have no one to blame but themselves for their own shortcomings in life! Instead of accepting blame for their failures and shortcomings, they instead go around blaming anyone or anything else for it. This makes them feel better and at the same time, it also gives them an excuse to not do something about it.
Like I said, accepting blame is a sign of maturity. Sure, it might make you look and feel like a fool but in the long people, you will gain more respect from both others and yourself. You will be able to trust yourself and people will be able to trust you. Accepting responsibility for your actions also means that if you make a serious error of judgement, you know that its your own fault and yours alone and this leads to you doing something about it. This in turn leads to you becoming a better person in the long run.
Now, the trouble is, this train of thought has lead me to realise that I too, am guilty of not accepting blame for my own failures and short comings in life. I’ve being very vocal about that here on my blog, like blaming my parent’s alcoholism, for fucking me up and leaving me with a negative self image when in all honesty, I’m really should be blaming myself. Its not what happens to you in life, its how you react to what happens to you in life that makes you who you are.
I’m not saying that the current cultural climate is entirely blameless, it contributes but like I said, its how you react that matters. You could what the manginas do; wallow in self - pity, blaming skanks, jerks, big government and feminism for all the ills and failures in life, not just with women. Giving them in their heads, a justifiable reason to not actually do anything about their situation! OR you could do what a real man would do; Take a long, good hard look at themselves, realise that they only have themselves to blame for the situation in thier lives and then go out and do something about it.
Feminists, western women in general and manginas go without saying here. However, I also have reason to believe that some MRAs would fit this profile as well. I know I sound like a jerk by saying that but think about it, the MRA scene gives some guys, particularly ones who have never being that successful with women to begin with ( like me ), a justifiable reason to whine about it and not actually do something to improve the situation!
I’m not saying that dating a WW / AW should be a goal or is even a good idea for such guys. I mean that these guys are using the MRA scene to hide from the idea of accepting blame for their own failures or shortcomings, which in turn leads them to becoming stagnant and bitter with their lives, not to mention shutting others wit different ideas. While I don’t too much about the respective issues, from what I gathered, TMB and AWS are examples of where this happened or is happening, correct me if I’m wrong.
That is the beauty of MGTOW, it’s a philosophy of life, one that encourages men to face responsibility for their actions and accept blame for their failures and shortcomings and with that, take action to make themselves better people as well. Unfortunately, as it is so broad, it also leads to laziness among some men, who see it as an excuse to never face up their shortcomings or improve themselves and hence never, come to anything. What kind of life is that, one might ask?
So, that’s just what I wanted to say, we as men should face up to our failures and shortcomings. Doing so will lead us to becoming better people.
Finally, this topic has remined of the scene from Rocky 6, I posted it and spoke of it before and it deserves to shown here again as it suits the context of this topic perfectly;
Until next time,
NHY
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Sunday, January 20, 2008
Sunday, June 10, 2007
A Response to Claritus
Recently, I was passed a link to Claritus' Blog, with the person who posted it telling me the writer was apparently neutral and tries to see things from both sides in regards to feminism and MRA's, the post that struck me most was this one. Which for a suppossed neutral blog, was rather biased against MRA and our plight.
Here, I am going to post my response to that post. It was meant for as a comment but due to a some weird glitch, my full comment was not properly published. However. I DID save it. So, I'll post it here instead.
This copied and pasted as is from the save file my hard drive.
Hi, someone left a link to this blog on my own so I thought I'd drop by and have a look.
I understand that your trying to remain neutral here but I couldn't help but notice there are is a lot of biased information there. I'll point them and give my commentary.
Even the dreaded feminists can manage to write a post on equality without having to resort to calling men names! I read once that ‘women should not call men dogs or bastards’. I fully agree. Women shouldn’t call men names. BUT men should be able to write a sentence without referring to the entire female population as prostitutes!
With respect that isn't true. There are plenty of MRA blogs that write posts without referring to the entire female population as prostitues.
I generally don't read feminist blogs so I can't provide accurate commentary on that issue.
This is what I’m talking about. Men’s Rights Activists seem to be labouring under a huge double standard. Feminists shouldn’t generalize men - but MRAs can generalize women! Women shouldn’t call men names - but MRAs can call women prostitutes just because some women are!
Well, if you've being the reciving end of the stick for most of your life, wouldn't you be a little angry at the people responsible to the point you start calling them names and get really cross at the world for allowing this to happen? I sure would, a lot of us MRAs are angry and rightfully so, I'm not going to blame them for calling women names.
Another thing worth nothing is that most MRAs have stated that what they say DOES NOT apply to ALL women, only MOST of them in western society.
They want women to stop having sex all the time (to the point of inserting chips into their arms so that men can tell if they want sex or not), just for the pleasure of it, (like the feminists have encouraged women to do) but they still defend the old line of ‘men are genetically hardwired to spread their seed’ meaning, basically, that men should get carte blanche to have sex with as many women as possible.
I know both men and women enjoy sex for pleasure but the problem with Promiscuity that is clearly rampant in today's soicety is that the wrong type of men benefit as a result from it. I'm talking about how the good men, the one who push themselves and want to make something of themselves are being cast aside by most women in favour of the bad boy, thug and player, types of men who provide her with excitment but are whom have no future and only live for the present.
And men ae hardwired for sex by nature, its a survival instinct. For the poor good guy, women abuse this to get things done, get money or a free meal and don't give anything in return. Do you call that fair?
You know the thing that really gets me going when I read MRA blogs? (which I don’t do much anymore, by the way - too hard on the blood pressure) Everything is the fault of women.
What do you want to blame instead, ourselves? If you look it up, most divorces are initated by women who are bored of the husband and want a change with benefits.
The case study you provided was kind of a bad example as well, in most cases, its usually the other way around and then the man is blamed for driving the women into the arms of the other man. Also, most of us MRAs would correct ourseleves if such a story came out and later details emerged like the way your desribed. I would.
I read a post, which I liked a lot, which talked about women’s rights. She said she thought women’s rights were the right to physical protection and safety, the right to emotional protection and safety, and the right to respect.
Almost all MRAs have no problem with this ideal. What we DO have a problem with is when laws come in telling companies that they'd need to hire a certain amount of women or risk getting sued, even if its clear that men are far more work focused and suited for that type of job than women amongst other laws that descriminate against males and the assumption that males are ' guilty until proven innocent ' and that all females are ' victims ' and that all men are ' oppressers '
In the MGTOW manifesto, it says men are going to expect respect from women. Nowhere does it say that they will give equal respect TO women. Is this fair? No. Another example would be women who get drunk, have sex, then claim they were raped. Now, according to some posts and comments I’ve read, the women should take responsibility, and not have sex, or even, and this was very recent, that women should have a chip inserted into their arm which glows different colours so that men will know if she actually wants to have sex or not. Why don’t men just not have sex? There’s a shocker. Why don’t men take some responsibility.
I thought that kind of thing in regards to respect would be would be autimatically assumed. Women give us men the respect we deserve and we will return the favour.
And like I said, the type of men that most young women in the west spend thier prime years hanging out with men don't know responsibility! The good men are responsible and looked what happened to them, they get brushed aside!
Another one. Women want to walk down the street without guys leaning out their car windows and yelling, making hand gestures, and basically making them feel very uncomfortable and unsafe.
If thats the case, then the woman should dress in a more respectable fashion, like you siad and generally speaking, the type of who do this are more often than not, the type of men who don't know responsibility if it hit on them on the head!
on a feminist website, and one of the comments from the women on the debate said something to the effect of if women should have to watch the way they dress, then men should exercise the ability to keep their mouths shut
With all due respect, we have kept our moths shut for 40 years while the feminist movement flourished and we got screwed over. Ditto in regards to the type of men who can't keep thier mouths shut around attrative women!
No. Fair exchange is no robbery. If women should look at the way they are dressing and curtail themselves for the benefit of men, then men could at least extend us the courtesy of treating us like human beings, not slabs of meat on show for their approval and delight.
We will, most of us MRAS would do just that if that occurred but remember what I've siad about the type of men who can't keep thier mouths shut!
There’s a saying that men are looking for someone to mother them, when they look for a partner, someone to look after them. After looking at these blogs, I have to say that this saying might be right after all - these men certainly don’t seem to want to take responsibility for their actions.
So men are nothing more than irresponsible, lazy slubs? I know you don't mean it like that but in essense, most of us men know how to look after ourselves quite well.
So, I gave you my commentary on this post, I hope it isn't too unreasonable, I tried to be as fair as possible in my commentary and don't mean to offend you. At least its written in a way that won't start any trouble and for that, Kudos to you.
NHY
Here, I am going to post my response to that post. It was meant for as a comment but due to a some weird glitch, my full comment was not properly published. However. I DID save it. So, I'll post it here instead.
This copied and pasted as is from the save file my hard drive.
Hi, someone left a link to this blog on my own so I thought I'd drop by and have a look.
I understand that your trying to remain neutral here but I couldn't help but notice there are is a lot of biased information there. I'll point them and give my commentary.
Even the dreaded feminists can manage to write a post on equality without having to resort to calling men names! I read once that ‘women should not call men dogs or bastards’. I fully agree. Women shouldn’t call men names. BUT men should be able to write a sentence without referring to the entire female population as prostitutes!
With respect that isn't true. There are plenty of MRA blogs that write posts without referring to the entire female population as prostitues.
I generally don't read feminist blogs so I can't provide accurate commentary on that issue.
This is what I’m talking about. Men’s Rights Activists seem to be labouring under a huge double standard. Feminists shouldn’t generalize men - but MRAs can generalize women! Women shouldn’t call men names - but MRAs can call women prostitutes just because some women are!
Well, if you've being the reciving end of the stick for most of your life, wouldn't you be a little angry at the people responsible to the point you start calling them names and get really cross at the world for allowing this to happen? I sure would, a lot of us MRAs are angry and rightfully so, I'm not going to blame them for calling women names.
Another thing worth nothing is that most MRAs have stated that what they say DOES NOT apply to ALL women, only MOST of them in western society.
They want women to stop having sex all the time (to the point of inserting chips into their arms so that men can tell if they want sex or not), just for the pleasure of it, (like the feminists have encouraged women to do) but they still defend the old line of ‘men are genetically hardwired to spread their seed’ meaning, basically, that men should get carte blanche to have sex with as many women as possible.
I know both men and women enjoy sex for pleasure but the problem with Promiscuity that is clearly rampant in today's soicety is that the wrong type of men benefit as a result from it. I'm talking about how the good men, the one who push themselves and want to make something of themselves are being cast aside by most women in favour of the bad boy, thug and player, types of men who provide her with excitment but are whom have no future and only live for the present.
And men ae hardwired for sex by nature, its a survival instinct. For the poor good guy, women abuse this to get things done, get money or a free meal and don't give anything in return. Do you call that fair?
You know the thing that really gets me going when I read MRA blogs? (which I don’t do much anymore, by the way - too hard on the blood pressure) Everything is the fault of women.
What do you want to blame instead, ourselves? If you look it up, most divorces are initated by women who are bored of the husband and want a change with benefits.
The case study you provided was kind of a bad example as well, in most cases, its usually the other way around and then the man is blamed for driving the women into the arms of the other man. Also, most of us MRAs would correct ourseleves if such a story came out and later details emerged like the way your desribed. I would.
I read a post, which I liked a lot, which talked about women’s rights. She said she thought women’s rights were the right to physical protection and safety, the right to emotional protection and safety, and the right to respect.
Almost all MRAs have no problem with this ideal. What we DO have a problem with is when laws come in telling companies that they'd need to hire a certain amount of women or risk getting sued, even if its clear that men are far more work focused and suited for that type of job than women amongst other laws that descriminate against males and the assumption that males are ' guilty until proven innocent ' and that all females are ' victims ' and that all men are ' oppressers '
In the MGTOW manifesto, it says men are going to expect respect from women. Nowhere does it say that they will give equal respect TO women. Is this fair? No. Another example would be women who get drunk, have sex, then claim they were raped. Now, according to some posts and comments I’ve read, the women should take responsibility, and not have sex, or even, and this was very recent, that women should have a chip inserted into their arm which glows different colours so that men will know if she actually wants to have sex or not. Why don’t men just not have sex? There’s a shocker. Why don’t men take some responsibility.
I thought that kind of thing in regards to respect would be would be autimatically assumed. Women give us men the respect we deserve and we will return the favour.
And like I said, the type of men that most young women in the west spend thier prime years hanging out with men don't know responsibility! The good men are responsible and looked what happened to them, they get brushed aside!
Another one. Women want to walk down the street without guys leaning out their car windows and yelling, making hand gestures, and basically making them feel very uncomfortable and unsafe.
If thats the case, then the woman should dress in a more respectable fashion, like you siad and generally speaking, the type of who do this are more often than not, the type of men who don't know responsibility if it hit on them on the head!
on a feminist website, and one of the comments from the women on the debate said something to the effect of if women should have to watch the way they dress, then men should exercise the ability to keep their mouths shut
With all due respect, we have kept our moths shut for 40 years while the feminist movement flourished and we got screwed over. Ditto in regards to the type of men who can't keep thier mouths shut around attrative women!
No. Fair exchange is no robbery. If women should look at the way they are dressing and curtail themselves for the benefit of men, then men could at least extend us the courtesy of treating us like human beings, not slabs of meat on show for their approval and delight.
We will, most of us MRAS would do just that if that occurred but remember what I've siad about the type of men who can't keep thier mouths shut!
There’s a saying that men are looking for someone to mother them, when they look for a partner, someone to look after them. After looking at these blogs, I have to say that this saying might be right after all - these men certainly don’t seem to want to take responsibility for their actions.
So men are nothing more than irresponsible, lazy slubs? I know you don't mean it like that but in essense, most of us men know how to look after ourselves quite well.
So, I gave you my commentary on this post, I hope it isn't too unreasonable, I tried to be as fair as possible in my commentary and don't mean to offend you. At least its written in a way that won't start any trouble and for that, Kudos to you.
NHY
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